S03 Episode 3: Writing with trees. With Jackee Holder


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A blend of slow radio, gardening advice and conversation, and readings from the best garden and wildlife writing.

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Garden soundtrack

Dawn breaking in the garden

Trees in the landscape

Reading from Wildwood, A Journey Through Trees, by Roger Deakin 2:25


Read by Richard Chivers

Interview with Jackee Holder 4:54

05:13 'Coach and author and cultural creative' – the scope of Jackee's work, and how it came about

7:57 The path to being a cultural creative – Jackee's career choices, and the common thread

8:43 What is a cultural creative?

10:52 Jackee's South London background

11:26 Avoiding restrictive labels

12:49 'Jack of all trades'. Ouch.

14:25 Drawing influences widely

15:49 A deep connection with nature

17:45 Something bigger. The wonder of it all.

19:24 The parks of London

19:54 The loneliness of the long distance runner

21:05 Making friends with trees

Braiding Sweetgrass by Robin Wall Kimmerer

"I understood at a very early age that in nature, I felt everything I should feel in church but never did." Alice Walker

22:33 Jackee's tamarind tree in Barbados

24:14 Dressing the trees at Christmas in the Carribean

27:54 Tree books. Tree Wisdom by Jacqueline Memory Paterson https://amzn.to/3csqx5Z

32:07 Jackee's connection to to the elder tree

39:35 The trees in Jackee's city garden

41:30 Listening to nature, mindfulness and being in 'receive mode'.

46:59 Solitude

48:33 Joy in the context of 2021. COVID, BLM.

49:26 Unapologetically celebrating nature.

Charlotte Delbo, Auschwitz and After

50:55 Sorrow and joy interwoven

An account of Milton Erickson and the African Violet Lady


55:24 "Nature was our first mother" Tina Welling

"Nature is not a place to visit. It is home." Gary Snyder

55:36 Being rooted.

57:46 Trees and writing.

Jackee's writing map "Writing with Fabulous Trees"


59:22 Journal writing (and being a stationery addict!)

101:30 The practice of writing. Using the 'Morning Pages' technique from Julia Cameron's The Artist's Way https://amzn.to/3pErewE

103:00 Making space for mindful practices

104:32 Jackee's mission to connect people with the urban forest


Thank you to Jackee Holder for giving up her time to talk to me about her creative plant-inspired practice.

You can find Jackee on Instagram here https://www.instagram.com/jackeeholderinspires/ – please note Jackee's Instagram handle has changed since the interview in this episode!

Or on her website: http://www.jackeeholder.com/

Grateful wotnots to Richard Chivers for stepping forward with his usual patient and willing response to my last-minute plea for a reading!

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