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Jennifer Chaiken, LMFT and Emmalee Bierly, LMFT

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Emmalee Bierly, LMFT and Jennifer Chaiken, LMFT, owners and co-founders of The Therapy Group (@thetherapygrp), bring you the ShrinkChicks Podcast. ShrinkChicks is on a mission to make therapy and therapeutic topics more relatable and accessible. Each Monday, Emmalee and Jen will explore different mental health topics and invite you to sit in on their insight, humor, and knowledge, leaving the psychobabble behind.
 
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On today’s episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen answer one of our most popular listener questions: how to ask for what you need! They discuss why it can be so hard to ask for what you need, how to begin learning what you need, and give us tangible steps to do so. Emmalee and Jen share how they learned what it was they needed through trial and e…
 
On today’s episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are joined by one of The Therapy Group's wonderful therapists, JoAnne Hanson, LMFT! JoAnne is not only a therapist but also an energy healer. Emmalee and Jen talk to JoAnne about WTF energy healing is, her journey to becoming an energy healer, integrating energy healing into traditional talk thera…
 
On today’s episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen cover the topic of rejection. They start the episode off by addressing a listener question that asks “how to get over rejection?” The hard truth is that rejection is inevitable - and so they give us all tangible ways to learn to deal with rejection and the feelings that accompany it. Emmalee and J…
 
This week, Emmalee and Jen talk about their bread and butter: couples therapy! As Licensed Marriage and Family Therapists, couples therapy is one of their favorite topics to demystify. They start by discussing the stigma behind couples therapy and why they wholeheartedly believe in it - from both sides of the couch - because relationships are hard!…
 
On today's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are joined by their wonderful Astrologer, Natalie Levin! Natalie shares her expertise with us and starts off with some Astrology 101. She explains what a birth chart is (i.e. sun, moon, and rising signs) and why some people don't feel aligned with their astrological sign. She then does a deep dive…
 
This week on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen cover one of your most requested topics: expectations. They discuss expectations in our romantic relationships, friendships, and with our family members as well as grieving unmet expectations and change and how to categorize this type of grief. They talk about how magical thinking and toxic positivity can …
 
On today’s episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen have the pleasure of sitting down with Mac Stanley Cazeau, LMHC (@talk2mac_therapist) to talk all about relationships, communication, infidelity, and affair recovery. Mac owns a private practice called Therapy is for Everyone and primarily works with couples recovering from an affair. He shares hi…
 
At the end of every episode, Emmalee and Jen always say: "to grow yourself, you gotta know yourself" but what does that really mean? This week on ShrinkChicks, Em and Jen break down their tagline and explain where to start when getting to know yourself. They discuss specific questions to guide us on this journey, how indecisiveness plays a role in …
 
This week on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are joined by Kail Lowry and Vee Rivera, hosts of the Baby Mamas No Drama Podcast! If you watched Teen Mom 2, you know that Kail and Vee’s relationship started off rocky, but today, Emmalee and Jen learn about their journey from hating each other, to co-parenting, to hosting a podcast together. They discus…
 
On today's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen dive into one of their most requested topics: Jealousy! They start off by discussing jealousy as a controversial emotion, the difference between jealousy and envy, why jealousy is a very normal emotion, and the reaction to jealousy vs. the emotion of jealousy. Emmalee and Jen each share the last t…
 
This week on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are joined by one of The Therapy Group's wonderful clinicians, Lydia (Tola) Lawson, MFT! Lydia shares her career journey (hint: she's on career number three) and how this journey led her to work primarily with clients who are at a crossroad in their career. They discuss Lydia's work in helping clients iden…
 
Today on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen explain the term "Radical Acceptance," which comes from a therapeutic modality called DBT (Dialectical Behavior Therapy). They discuss the difference between radical acceptance and invalidating our feelings, how to work towards this kind of acceptance, building up our distress tolerances, how many of us were t…
 
This is ShrinkChicks 100th episode!! Thank you to all of the listeners - both old and new - for helping the show get to this point! Today, Emmalee and Jen reflect on this exciting milestone and laugh about the things that have changed over the past two years. They then answer your questions in a fan favorite, Q&A style episode. These questions incl…
 
This week's episode combines Emmalee and Jen's love for therapy and the Disney movie, Encanto, by discussing how Encanto so perfectly depicts family systems. Emmalee and Jen tell us about common, family roles we take on like the “caretaker” or the “scapegoat," how these roles can serve us and be reinforced externally, the story your family tells ab…
 
Today's episode of ShrinkChicks is a follow up to the episode from a few weeks ago: Does Sibling Rivalry Ever End. There were so many sibling/birth order specific listener questions, so Emmalee and Jen wanted to answer them for you, today! Some questions and topics they discuss include: can sibling birth order affect you outside of the family dynam…
 
This week on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are joined by one of their amazing clinicians, Katie Bongiorno, LMFT, to talk about her new e-course: Achieving Authentic Balance in Your Body. They start off by telling the story of how Katie was hired at The Therapy Group (hint: it involves her dog) and then they dive into her e-course (launching TOMORRO…
 
On today's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen talk all about sibling relationships. They discuss birth order, sibling conflict, only children, reconnecting with your siblings as adults, favoritism and so much more. Emmalee and Jen are both the youngest siblings in their family's of origin and they share some insight into what it was like grow…
 
Today on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen talk all about being alone, their love for it, and ways to become more comfortable with it. They discuss the various benefits of being alone, finding a hobby as an adult, codependency vs. interdependency, the choice to be alone vs. it being circumstantial, what happens if you get too comfortable being alone, a…
 
Fellow therapists, therapists in training, those wanting to become therapists: this one's for you! On today's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen discuss their post-graduate journey to licensure, imposter syndrome, and therapist's "firsts." They answer your questions re: worrying about clients when you're off the clock, feeling guilty for char…
 
This week on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen dive into the topic of family dynamics and boundaries and how to navigate them during the Holiday season. Specifically, they discuss the difference of dynamics in our family of origin vs. our in-laws/partner's family, the transition out of our family of origin, expectation setting, and family traditions an…
 
Today on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen sit down with the hosts of the Pillow Talks Podcast, Vanessa & Xander Marin, to talk all about sex. Vanessa is a licensed psychotherapist with 20 years of experience in the sex therapy field and Xander’s a regular dude who’s been married to a sex therapist for over a decade. They start by normalizing the idea …
 
On this week's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen sit down with one of Jen’s best friends, Jason Abel. Jason starts by telling embarrassing stories about Jen from growing up, which you don't want to miss. Then, Jason shares his story of coming out as a gay man at age 24 to Jen - the first person that he told. He explains his thought process i…
 
Today on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen dive into the topic of forgiveness by explaining the definition of forgiveness and the stages that come along with it. They discuss why forgiveness is for us and not for the other person, the parts of forgiveness that they struggle with, the difference between anger and resentment, and how that resentment can …
 
On this week's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are joined by one of their amazing clinicians from The Therapy Group, Dr. Lindsay Haston. Lindsay is a licensed psychologist dedicated to helping others feel more comfortable being themselves. She strives to assist clients in leading a more full and meaningful life while also managing the pain…
 
Today on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen explain what enmeshment is. You might have heard similar terms used like codependency or fusion, as they can look incredibly similar. They go into what enmeshed relationships look like in families, in romantic partnerships, and even at work. Enmeshment and boundaries go hand in hand, and Emmalee and Jen walk u…
 
Q & A part two! This week on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen continue to answer your questions, this time about setting boundaries in relationships and at work. Em and Jen give their insight about guilt trips and the functions behind them, highly critical parents, how to continue to set boundaries when receiving pushback, what to do when a loved one …
 
This week on ShrinkChicks we give you some much needed comic relief from our guest: comedian Jared Freid! Jared is co-host of the U Up? Podcast, co-host of The Betchelor Podcast, host of the JTrain Podcast, and has a hysterical and relatable Instagram presence (@jaredfreid). Emmalee and Jen talk with Jared all about dating and relationships from a …
 
On today’s episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen introduce you all to Nikki, their ShrinkChicks producer and Head of Operations of The Therapy Group! She talks about how she got her job (hint: she was a listener who DM’ed Em and Jen), the steps she took to make a major career shift, the biggest surprise about working for Emmalee and Jen, imposte…
 
Today on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen have the pleasure of sitting down with Terry Real, an internationally recognized Couples & Family Therapist, speaker, and best selling author. Terry has worked with thousands of women and men, parents and non-parents, to help them create the connection they desire in their relationships. Emmalee and Jen talk w…
 
This week on ShrinkChicks, we cover one of our most requested topics: Emmalee interviews Jen about her decision to be childfree. She asks Jen all of your questions including how she knew she didn't want kids, the way she brought it up to her now husband, the initial reactions of her family, in-laws and friends, and how she plans to handle things wh…
 
Today on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen explore the differences between our personal and professional selves. They talk about starting their business, imposter syndrome, authenticity in the workplace, different work environments, and how therapists are taught to be a blank slate. Emmalee and Jen share the fears they both had when deciding to start T…
 
On this week’s episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen give us a glimpse into the communication skills we didn’t learn in school. We are ALL sometimes bad communicators, even two couples therapists. They highlight a portion of their Making The Most Of Your Marriage e-course: communication. Em and Jen take us through 15 different types of “bad” com…
 
Today on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are joined by the amazing Erica Smith, M.Ed., sex educator and creator of the Purity Culture Dropout Program. Erica educates us all on purity culture and what it looks like in our world today. They discuss Erica's path to becoming a sex educator and the work she does to help her clients recover from the effect…
 
Spoiler alert: there’s no magic trick. After a few weeks of guests, today's episode of ShrinkChicks is just with Em and Jen! They give us an update on their lives and some things they've been facing, personally. They discuss how the world is on fire! And with that, the false sense of control that we can feel when we take in information, the emotion…
 
Welcome to Pelvic Floor Health 101! This week on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are joined by Pelvic Floor Physical Therapist, Gina Cunningham. She clues us in to what a pelvic floor actually is and why pelvic floor health matters. Gina explains the reasons why someone might need pelvic floor physical therapy and takes us through what a typical eval…
 
Trigger Warning: death and serious illness. Healthcare workers are on the front lines of the COVID-19 pandemic and the stories shared in this episode, from an inside, firsthand perspective, are heavy and potentially triggering. On today's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen have a powerful conversation with Katie Duke, who worked on the frontl…
 
This week on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen sit down with Scout Sobel (@scoutsobel): co-host of the Okay Sis Podcast, host of SCOUT Podcast, founder of Scout's Agency and most recently an author! They discuss Scout's diagnosis of Bipolar Disorder, why the diagnosis felt so isolating, and how it impacted her especially as it related to a career. Scou…
 
Today on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen discuss a type of therapy called Narrative Therapy. They explain what Narrative Therapy is, how it's used with clients, and how we can begin to challenge the stories we tell ourselves about ourselves. They talk about where these stories can originate, the roles we take on in our families of origin such as "the…
 
On this week's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen dive into the topic of social media and the apps we spend so much time on. They discuss the positives and negatives of social media, comparing ourselves to someone else's highlight reel, the things that exist beyond the highlight reel, why Jen is struggling with the idea of posting pictures of…
 
Today on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee tells Jen two stories from her weekend that Jen is hearing for the first time on air. Hint: you won't believe them, either! In processing these stories, Emmalee and Jen discuss how some parts of ourselves can feel healed while others can feel like a work in progress. They talk Mom shaming, society's expectations of Mo…
 
In this week's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen answer the question: what do you do when your friends are in a different stage of life than you? Such as being the only mom in your group of friends, the only single friend, the only married friend, the only childfree friend, or in financially different places than your friends, the list goes …
 
Today on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen catch up. They check in to see how each other is doing (hint: it's been a tough few weeks) and dive into the topic of magical thinking, which is one of many cognitive distortions. For instance: I will be happier once I get married. Or my life will magically improve once I lose X amount of weight. They discuss …
 
In today's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen have the privilege of sitting down with actress, author, and film producer India Oxenberg. They discuss India’s experience with the NXIVM cult, challenge the stigma associated with people who fall victim to predators and/or high control groups, the grooming and coercion that occured, and how she's…
 
Today's episode is ALL about expectations. Emmalee and Jen discuss the expectations we have in different relationships: romantic, platonic, at work, and with our families. They share expectations they have in their own relationships, how to voice these expectations, and why we need to give ourselves space to grieve the expectations that may go unme…
 
Emmalee and Jen sit down with the incredible Dr. Cassidy Freitas, fellow Licensed Marriage & Family Therapist and Podcaster. The three of them dig into boundaries, people pleasing, and how to set boundaries as a people pleaser. They discuss where people pleasing can originate, where to start when addressing our people pleasing tendencies, how to sh…
 
This week, Emmalee and Jen talk through the topics that can be hard to bring up in therapy. From our sex lives and sexual fantasies to depression, lying, or speaking negatively about our parents. They explain why we avoid sharing certain topics with our therapists and give their perspectives from both sides of the couch (hint: they’ve done the same…
 
In today's episode, Emmalee and Jen are joined by one of The Therapy Group's wonderful clinicians, Callie Fraser, MSS, LSW. Callie (@calliefrasercounseling) shares her lived experience of growing up with the knowledge that her Moms used a sperm donor to bring her into this world. She recounts teaching her friends about sperm donors at a young age, …
 
Emmalee & Jen challenge the idea of “never giving up” on this week’s episode. They address the topic of quitting and why it’s okay to leave relationships, jobs, mindsets, etc. when they're no longer serving you. They talk through the things that keep us from quitting, what happens to our identities once we do leave, how to listen to our bodies and …
 
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