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100% real talk with your two new Korean adoptee besties! Hana and Ryan, Korean adoptees from Melbourne, Australia, talk about anything and everything adoption related, including race, gender, birth family search and reunion, and more. Original podcast music by Domus.
 
Adopt Perspective is a podcast for anyone affected by adoption. We discuss the adoption experience from the perspectives of mothers, fathers, adopted people and their loved ones, so that we may learn and grow from the perspectives of others. Sharing personal stories and explore adoption topics including adoption loss, psychological impacts of adoption, forced adoption, inter-country adoption, searching, reunion, healing and many others. We interview adults affected by adoption as well as pra ...
 
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Today's guest is an author and adoptee who was born in Sydney's Crown Street Women's Hospital in 1965 where she remained for a month because of a mild talipes diagnosis. When released from the hospital she was placed in a foster care arrangement with her future adoptive parents for a period of twelve months, until the adoption was finalised. Karen …
 
In the second episode of our interview with Dr Gary Clapton, Jo asks him about his adoption research, with a particular focus on fathers who lost children to adoption. Gary is a father who lost a daughter to adoption in 1970. He is also a social worker who conducts research into adoption at The University of Edinburgh and is a committee member of t…
 
Dr Gary Clapton is a father who lost a daughter to adoption in 1970. He is also a Social Worker who conducts research into adoption at The University of Edinburgh and is a committee member of the Father’s Network Scotland and an advisor to ‘Birthlink’. In this episode Gary will be sharing his personal story with Jo Sparrow and in part two he'll be …
 
[CW: suicide]Pastor Do-Hyun Kim (김도현) talks about his early work in Switzerland and how he first became aware of Korean adoption, the activities he has run at KoRoot over the years to support adoptees, and his tireless commitment to raising awareness of adoption in Korea - including the separation and loss felt by adoptees and original mothers - wh…
 
Lynelle Long is a Vietnamese adoptee born in the early 70’s who now resides in Sydney, Australia. She founded InterCountry Adoptee Voices (ICAV) in 1988 and has built it into a global network in the intercountry adoptee community. It is now one of the first worldwide platforms for adoptee-led organisations and individuals to collaborate, share and …
 
Bernadette Davison is a mother who lost a daughter to adoption in Cairns, Queensland in 1985 at the age of eighteen. In this episode she shares her story of that time, how this loss impacted her life in the years afterward, her reunion story and how attending a Federal Forced Adoption apology anniversary event in Western Australia, where she now re…
 
WE’RE BAAAAAACK! Ryan’s in Melbourne lockdown 5.0, or what feels like 50.0, and Hana can only meet up with one other person after 6pm in Seoul. Plus, she can’t listen to music faster than 120BPM at the gym (but songs like Robyn’s Dancing On My Own at 117BPM are A-OK.) Covid restrictions, eh. In this convo, Ryan shares some exciting life news and Ha…
 
Jane talks to Link-Up Queensland Research Manager, Ruth Loli. Link-Up Qld works to enhance the lives of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people who were forcibly removed from their families as children or were affected by forcible removal policies. This includes work with elders, Mums, Dads, grandparents, aunties, uncles, sisters and brothers …
 
Jo Sparrow talks to Jo Stuurman about his experience as an adoptee who lived through the Stolen Generation. The Stolen Generations are Indigenous Australians who were forcibly removed from their families, community, and culture owing to government policies and laws throughout the 1900s, until at least 1970. Jo was adopted by a Dutch immigrant famil…
 
In the second episode of our two-part adoption and addiction series, Jane speaks to David Bohl about the relationship between adoption and addiction. David is an adoptee from the USA who is a Clinical Substance Abuse Counsellor, Master Addiction Counsellor and currently works as an independent addiction and recovery consultant. David is a board mem…
 
On Adopted Feels, we’ve mainly interviewed friends and friends of friends (sliding into Joel Kim Booster’s DMs didn’t work, unfortunately - if anyone out there can hook us up, please do!).Until now. Korean adoptee Ben Kaplan contacted us out-of-the-blue to offer his story, becoming the first “completely random person” guest on the pod. It would be …
 
Kevin Barhydt is an adoptee living in New York who wrote a memoir about his adoption, childhood sexual abuse, addiction and recovery called 'Dear Stephen Michael's Mother'. By the age of 20, Kevin had succumbed to a suicidal lifestyle of drug dealing and prostitution. At age 45, and after many years of recovery, he began a painful journey to uncove…
 
In this episode we chatted with Edward Yoo Pokropski, the Executive Producer of the upcoming Asian Comedy Fest! Ed is also Writer/Producer for the Brand Creative Team at USA Network and Universal Kids for NBCUniversal. He has been nominated for a daytime Emmy twice and won zero times. He also performs stand-up and hosts events, sometimes for money,…
 
This year (2021), marks 30 years since the 1991 amendments to Queensland's 1964 Adoption of Children Act. The 1991 amendments entitled adopted people and their parents to receive identifying information about each other - unless the other party had lodged an objection (veto). Parents and adopted people tirelessly lobbied for the amendments for more…
 
This episode is an audio recording of a recent online event called “The Intersectional Lives of Transgender Adoptees” (2021.04.26), organized by the adult adoptee organisation Also-Known-As, Inc., under the most excellent leadership of Korean adoptee Mike Mullen.In the first panel of its kind, Ryan, along with three amazing transgender intercountry…
 
Not an adoptee and not quite a gyopo, Bastiaan Flikweert, also known as 신서빈, best describes himself as a second generation adoptee. Born in 1999 to two Dutch Korean adoptees, he spent his childhood living in both the Netherlands and Korea. He credits his intercultural upbringing with opening up many opportunities, but also with struggles and questi…
 
Suz Bednarz is an American mother who lost her daughter to adoption in 1986 and began the process of searching for and attempting to reconnect with her then 18-year old daughter in 2005. Suz began a blog to document her journey and that is how she and Jane became friends. In this episode, Suz speaks to Jane about her story and experience. This epis…
 
Welcome to the second quarter of 2021! (Scary.) This episode finds us in contrasting situations: Ryan has too much work to do and Hana has too little at times, and life in Melbourne is almost back to normal while covid restrictions continue in Seoul. We talk about work, work-life balance, asserting your own needs, and academic/teaching burnout - as…
 
Today's guest is a well known figure in the Queensland adoption community. At age 17, Vivienne Timmermans was an Australian Champion figure skater with big plans for her future. Around the same time, she discovered she was pregnant and her daughter was placed for adoption in 1980. In this episode, Jo Sparrow speaks to Vivienne about her experience …
 
Jo Sparrow speaks with a mother and an adoptee who wrote a book about their reunion experience. Susannah McFarlane is an adoptee and author, creator and publisher of some of Australia’s most successful children’s book series and Susannah’s mother, Robin Leuba taught English and English literature for many years. ‘Heartlines: The Year I Met My Other…
 
In this episode, Hana catches up with the “Aussie Dining Club”, a group of Korean Australians in Seoul. Adoptees Blossom Perriard and Meg O’Shea, and Korean Australian chef Peter Jo meet at Hana’s apartment to say farewell to Meg before she returns to Australia. This is a loose, intimate conversation among friends: one who just arrived in Korea, on…
 
Jane speaks to Professor Daryl Higgins about the study titled, "Past Adoption Experiences: National Research Study on the Service Response to Past Adoption Practices" he contributed to and co-authored in his role of Deputy Director (Research) at the Australian Institute of Family Studies. Prof Higgins is a registered psychologist who has researched…
 
In part two of our discussion about discharging an adoption, Jo talks to Jigsaw Qld's Forced Adoption Support Service (FASS)Team Leader, Andrea Lynch more generally about the process and things to consider. The FASS role is not to provide legal advice, but rather to support people to think through their decisions and deal with the emotional respons…
 
In this episode we speak with a very special guest: YoungChang Min (민영창), activist and co-director of the Domestic Korean Adoptee Association. It’s a perspective that a lot of overseas adoptees don’t often hear about - that’s been our experience, at least. YoungChang explains what it was like finding out, at the age of 13, that he was adopted - and…
 
Michael Costello was born in Brisbane in 1970, at the height of the closed and forced adoption eras. He was initially placed in an orphanage, and then extended foster care, despite his mother making several attempts to regain custody. Michael went on to be adopted by his foster carers at the age of five where he was physically, sexually and emotion…
 
In this episode Jane speaks to Cath Mundy and Jay Turner, a singer-song writing duo who worked with Jigsaw Qld and our client and stakeholder groups to write a song to represent the Forced Adoption experience. They then performed the song with some of the group participants at the 2020 7th Anniversary of the National Apology for Past Forced Adoptio…
 
Maree Kinder, a literal beauty boss, third culture kid-grown-woman and Korean adoptee, talks to us about the unique origins of her business Beauty & Seoul, connection to Korea, mental health, and more. Maree Kinder is a multi-award winning entrepreneur and Founder of K-Beauty online store Beauty & Seoul. She is widely credited with making K-Beauty …
 
In the first episode of 2021 we talk to adoptee, Psychotherapist, cancer survivor and author, Pam Cordano about her book, "10 Foundations for a Meaningful Life (No Matter What's Happened)". Most of Pam's work over 30 years has been focused on clients who experience serious illness or tragedy, where life was one way and suddenly changed in a moment.…
 
“I tried so hard to fit into Korea, and I only realised - honestly like six months ago - that I shouldn’t have to try so hard [here] either. I spent so long trying to fit into America...here, I can just be myself...And if people don’t understand me, then so be it. I’m just gonna be who I want to be. I don’t think I could have had that [realisation]…
 
Christmas is a time when there are many cultural messages about families getting together and being happy and joyful. However, the reality is often different. In this episode Jane and Jo talk about the added complexities of this time for those affected by adoption and offer some tips for managing the holiday season.This episode discusses adult them…
 
What is han (한)? What is jeong (정)? How can we apply them in our lives in a practical way? In today’s episode we unpack these Korean concepts and discuss how they may offer different insights from conventional Western psychology. Our guide for this conversation is Kristine Chong, a Korean American spiritual care practitioner and activist. Warm, gen…
 
Hey everyone, we’ve missed you! In this episode, the two of us sit down for a long overdue transcontinental catch up—but first, Hana shares another extended Seoul life update (she likes to do that)—in which she realises, “Oh s#*^! I live here now”. She also delves into the process of cultural adaptation and the anxiety of not knowing what’s next, f…
 
What a year! In this penultimate episode of the podcast, join Jo and Jane as they review the first season of Adopt Perspective and the global landscape that led to its creation. They also reflect on the work delivered by Jigsaw Qld's Forced Adoption Support Service during a year that was particularly challenging for anyone affected by adoption. Thi…
 
As the 8th anniversary of Queensland's historic apology in parliament for past forced adoption policies and practices nears, Jigsaw Qld's Forced Adoption Support Service (FASS) Team Leader, Andrea Lynch talks to Jo about two Queensland projects aimed at educating the public about the State's dark adoption history and memorialising it in hope that t…
 
In this episode, Jo speaks to Jigsaw Qld's President, Dr Trevor Jordan about the emotions that can arise when doing advocacy work, how far we’ve come in Queensland and Australia and what is possible in the future. Trevor is a long-term advocate of responsible adoption reform and education. For 20 years he taught Public and Professional Ethics at th…
 
Hana wanted to get this guest on the pod for ages but was too afraid to ask, but now - hooray! - here he is. Kee Byung-keun is a food writer, photographer, and editor based in Tokyo. Born in Seoul sometime in 1984 and sent away to the United States soon thereafter, Kee was raised in rural Louisiana—where, as he says, the food was good but life was …
 
In today's episode, Jo speaks to Kerri Saint - an adopted person and advocate who was a founding member of the Association for Adoptees. They discuss Kerri's personal experience of adoption and her efforts to seek legislative change, acknowledgement of past wrongs and redress for anyone affected by adoption. This episode discusses adult themes and …
 
In this episode, Jane speaks to Deputy CEO of International Social Service (ISS), Damon Martin. ISS Australia provides social work, legal and mediation services to families and children across international borders. This includes assistance for families experiencing international parental child abduction, facilitating international kinship care and…
 
In this episode, we share the 2nd part of our conversation with Boon Young, Jenny, and kimura, three heavyweights of the global Korean adoptee community, who have committed decades of their lives to advocating for adoptee rights and social change in Korea. We talk about coming 'out of the fog,' why they first became involved in adoptee activism, wh…
 
In part one of our intercountry series, Jo speaks to Barton Williams about his experience of being airlifted from war torn Saigon, Vietnam in 1975 as part of the controversial humanitarian mission, Operation Babylift. Barton was raised in the eastern suburbs of Adelaide, by his new Australian adoptive family and went on to represent Australia in wa…
 
As international adoptees, everyone knows someone whose adoption records were falsified, manipulated, switched, or never existed in the first place. In fact, accurate, complete records are practically the exception to the rule. We also know the impact of inaccurate, patchy information on an adoptee’s identity. Most people take their birthdate, age,…
 
In time for Father's Day, Jane spoke to Gary Coles, who lost his son to adoption in 1967 and who has written extensively about the experience of fathers who were separated from their sons and daughters by adoption. Gary also worked as a manager for VANISH, a Victorian service supporting all those affected by adoption and donor conception. In 2019 G…
 
Nikki Lee Bix Webster is the creator of nikkioften, a visual arts project “dedicated to punching you in the heart with comics”—and she's very good at it. In this episode, Nikki talks to us about living in and leaving Korea, moving back to the U.S., creating home, drawing, and nurturing one's inner child. She shares what she's learned about relation…
 
Jo talks to former Family Court Judge, Professor Nahum Mushin about his experience chairing the Forced Adoption Apology Reference Group; the dramatic day the Federal apology was delivered, why forced adoption doesn't appear to have as much community recognition as other prominent issues and the unfinished business still remaining seven years after …
 
In recent months, the Black Lives Matter Movement and anti-Asian covid-19 pandemic racism have prompted renewed urgent conversations regarding race among Korean and other Asian adoptees. In this conversation with Adam Goodman of Plan A Magazine and the Escape from Plan A podcast, we talk about racial and adoptee identity, and finding your voice as …
 
In the second episode of our late discovery series, Jane speaks to Dr Helen Riley about her personal story and her research into late discovery adoption. Imagine discovering that you're adopted as an adult. This disclosure might come following the death of an adoptive parent, by accident, when approached by a biological family member, while applyin…
 
Imagine discovering that you're adopted as an adult. This disclosure might come following the death of an adoptive parent, by accident, when approached by a biological family member, while applying for a passport, finding adoption papers or during a family argument. These are just some of the ways late discoverers have found out the truth. Over two…
 
We’ve mentioned star signs a few times before on the podcast, but today we take it one step further by talking to professional astrologer and shamanic healer Mallory Gill. In this episode Mallory gives us a primer on astrology, what perspectives it can offer - particularly for adoptees - and we learn that Hana is a very-virgo-virgo, and Ryan is a s…
 
In Part Two, Jo and Jane talk more about the various forms of grief and loss we may encounter and how the adoption experience adds an additional layer of complexity when tackling these experiences. This episode discusses adult themes and listener discretion is advised. Visit www.jigsawqueensland.com for more information about adoption issues or for…
 
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