Ep. 363: Oh Waiter, I’ll Have the Rage with a Side of Tired Please! With Deb Perelman of Smitten Kitchen


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Biz is joined by Deb Perelman of Smitten Kitchen to unpack parenting and work in the time of Covid-19. Parents are being asked to do impossible things right now as we all try to figure out how to work and take care of our children and educate our children. We all know that something needs to change. Where will the support come from and what can we do to make our voices heard?

Read Deb Perelman's Op-Ed for the NYTimes: In the Covid-19 Economy, You Can Have a Kid or a Job. You Can’t Have Both. Follow Deb on Twitter @DebPerelman and on Instagram at debperelman. Find her incredible recipes at Smittenkitchen.com.

Actions you can take currently to make your voice heard:

Find your representatives:


Some questions to ask your lawmakers:

-Do you support universal child care?

-What are you doing to protect parents from losing their jobs?

-What will you do to support parents who have been forced to quit their jobs or have lost their jobs due to caring for their children?

-Do you have any say over the DOE?

-What creative solutions are you coming up with for alternative schooling plans?

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Our book You’re Doing A Great Job!: 100 Ways You’re Winning at Parenting! is available wherever books are sold.

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Show Music

Opening theme: Summon the Rawk, Kevin MacLeod (http://incompetech.com)

Ones and Zeros, Awesome, Beehive Sessions (http://awesomeinquotes.com, also avail on iTunes)

Mom Song, Adira Amram, Hot Jams For Teens (http://adiraamram.com, avail on iTunes)

Telephone, Awesome, Beehive Sessions (http://awesomeinquotes.com, also avail on iTunes)

Closing music: Mama Blues, Cornbread Ted and the Butterbeans

Mental Health Resources:

Suicide Prevention Hotline: Call or chat. They are here to help anyone in crisis. Adults, children, LGBTQ, disaster survivors, you name it, they can help.

https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org and number 1-800-273-8255 and there is a chat option on the website.

Crisis Text Line: Text from anywhere in the USA (also Canada and the UK) to text with a trained counselor. A real human being.

USA text 741741

Canada text 686868

UK text 85258

Website: https://www.crisistextline.org

National Sexual Assault: Call 800.656.HOPE (4673) to be connected with a trained staff member from a sexual assault service provider in your area.


National Domestic Violence Hotline:


Our advocates are available 24/7 at 1-800-799-SAFE (7233) in more than 200 languages. All calls are free and confidential.

They suggest that if you are a victim and cannot seek help, ask a friend or family member to call for you.

Teletherapy Search:https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/online-counseling

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