Episode 30: A Chat with Don Norman

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By Katherine Druckman and Doc Searls, Katherine Druckman, and Doc Searls. Discovered by Player FM and our community — copyright is owned by the publisher, not Player FM, and audio is streamed directly from their servers. Hit the Subscribe button to track updates in Player FM, or paste the feed URL into other podcast apps.

Katherine Druckman and Doc Searls talk to Don Norman, one of the world's most influential designers, about data privacy, the cult of Apple, hero complexes, and climate change.

Special Guest: Don Norman.

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